As the Northern Arapaho Sundance ceremony was in its final day on July 5, Foundations For Nations Pastor Sarah Lucas stood before her congregation on the Wind River Reservation and suggested Native people should turn away from their traditional ways, calling them a false “idol.”

“I pray as the people coming out of Sundance today, their last day, they’re going back into community,” she said in a video of the sermon that’s since gone viral. “You have generations, generations, centuries of people doing this offering, going in and being, making vows to change, Father God. And we see no fruit.”

As Lucas ushered a handful of Native people up to the podium to tell their stories about how they rejected their traditional faith in favor of Christianity, she offered prayers that others do the same, that they “not be in any demonic activity.”

“The pipe cannot hear your prayers. It’s just a piece of material, right? And this is a cycle that they’re caught up in, and this is all they’ve ever known,” she said. “And the Lord is saying ‘Tear down the idols, tear down the altars, the idol worship.’”

As the video began circulating on social media, several hundred Native community members moved swiftly to protest, to demand that Foundations For Nations leave the reservation.

The Lucas family fled, citing death threats. The church’s related food shelf closed its doors.

On Friday, church officials met with the Northern Arapaho Business Council and were told to leave the reservation. 

But instead, Sunday services were held, and today, the Foundations For Nations Church had doubled down. 

“We are standing firmly on the truth of the Word of God concerning idol worship. As many of you know, traditional practices here include the worship of the ‘old man pipe’ and prayers directed to ancestors,” the church wrote in a statement to its members, describing threats received since the July 5 sermon and saying the FBI and local law enforcement have become involved in the conflict. 

“This brings us to a critical question: Should we compromise the Word of God for the sake of safety or to maintain peace with a people group? Our answer is clear — no.” 

Foundations For Nations argued that it owned its property and can’t be removed “in this manner,” adding that it was ready to fight the removal order in federal court. “We are in need of financial support to help cover the legal expenses required to continue this mission and ensure God’s Word continues to go forth on the Wind River Reservation,” the message continued. 

Backlash against the church has continued, and some have called on the tribes to invoke the “bad man” clause in their treaty with the U.S. government, which empowers the tribes to ban people from reservation land.

The sermon

Though the church acted quickly to remove the sermon video online after mounting criticism, it has continued circulating and drawing blowback from Native leaders across the country.

At the end of the sermon, Lucas called up several people to offer testimony about how they embraced Jesus Christ and rejected their traditional spirituality. A Crow man from Montana stood before the congregation and offered a story about his grandfather, born in 1904, who participated in 20 Sundance ceremonies. In the 20th year, the Crow man said, as his grandfather danced to the center pole in prayer, he saw demons. “He never did it again, and he ended up giving his life to God … God’s real, and if He can turn a ceremonial man away, He can save anybody,” he said.

The story received a round of applause before the next person began their testimony. Lucas called them “points of contact” who could join in to evangelize the rest of the community toward Jesus Christ and away from traditional ways.

Delivered one day after the Fourth of July, part of Lucas’ sermon on July 5 reflected on freedoms found in the U.S. “It’s hard to understand if you’ve never left the nation,” she said. “But I’ve been to nine countries, and I’m telling you that I look forward to every day of coming back to my nation, to my country.”

Lucas pointed to countries ruled by dictators, where people were not free to worship openly. “But in this nation, in this tribal nation, in this reservation, they came off their week of Sundance,” she said. “Today is their last day of festivities. And if you don’t understand [what] Sundance is, ask some of our Native community that is here that said Jesus is enough and walked away from some of that.”

She urged her congregation to be watchful in the “spirit realm” and reflected on a busy week for the church. “But are we fighting the spiritual temperature in the atmosphere?” she asked. “Where it says ‘Tear down the altars; tear down the idols?’ And this nation gathered this week and they prayed, and they prayed to pipes, and they prayed to their ancestors, believing that this is their way for their freedom to get free from addiction, for people to be healed from their sickness, and this is what this culture did this week. And we went on as church as normal, but here’s the thing. I feel like we’ve got to pray this morning before moving on. I feel like we’re going to pray for this nation this morning, and we’re going to pray for our Indigenous nation, for our tribe this week as they’re coming out of this, because we know that Jesus is enough. He’s enough. It’s not Jesus plus. It’s Jesus everything, he’s everything … Jesus is the chain breaker. He is the only god that we should be praying to.”

A community outraged

“But as Natives we have been persecuted by these types of people since their immigrant grandparents came here. They forced that religion on us,” Chris Friday wrote on Facebook. “Talk to your grandparents who were beat, spit on, SA’d, tied up and locked in dog cages as kids. The nuns would wash their mouths out with soap and hold food from them. Starving them for days. Locking them in pitch black basements. These are some of the things I’ve heard from my late grandma. How [the] radicals would treat Native kids at the boarding schools. Their mindset isn’t far from this same mindset of beating the Indian out of the man.”

The sermon sparked a wave of criticism, and many tied the church’s message to the treatment of Native American people and their traditions by the U.S. government such as Indian boarding schools where children were punished for using their native languages and expressing their cultures. The goal was to eradicate Native cultures and traditions, and tribal communities often had to worship in secret to escape persecution.

“For many Indigenous people, churches have been intertwined with colonization, cultural erasure,” wrote Lynette Grey Bull, who founded Not Our Native Daughters, which focuses on educating the public about missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls. “If Creator made Indigenous peoples with our languages, cultures, ceremonies and identities, why should we be shamed for them? Why should an outside interpretation of Christianity require us to reject the very gifts Creator entrusted to our nations? … Sarah Lucas is repeating a traumatic history of the boarding school era, where our hair was cut, language removed and our babies were beaten if they did anything to identify themselves as their Native way of life!”

For some, the statements made by Lucas about the sacred Arapaho pipes were doubly offensive; the Arapaho creation story includes a great flood, with a man holding a pipe fasting and praying for land to remake the earth. The land returned under the pipe, which is today sometimes called “grandfather” or “grandfather pipe” and one of the tribe’s most sacred objects.

“What she did was not damaging to one religious organization, it damaged the trust granted to any that would ever attempt to come to our home again. It is no secret that Indian Country has a past and a history with religion. Religion for us carries complex, heavy, and negative connotations, wrought by suffering, abuse, murder, rape, and the destruction of our traditional practices and way of life. This incident has the potential to further damage that already tumultuous relationship. The ability to further trust perceived outsiders with sacred knowledge and wisdom will never be approached the same again,” Jennifer Fienhold wrote of Lucas’ statements. “There is no coming back from what she said. If she truly values her relationship with the community, she will do the respectful thing and take her leave. I don’t mean from social media or from any future ceremonies, I mean quite literally pack her things and leave … Backflip, square dance, and yodel your apology all you want, the people already see you. And you aren’t sorry. What you are is the wrong fit.”

Many called for the church and Lucas to leave the reservation. While the protests were peaceful and featured speeches, drumming and singing, and circle dances, some commentary online included veiled or outright threats against the church and its leadership.

In a text message that appeared to come from Pastor Lucas last week, she said she was going to meet with Northern Arapaho leaders on Friday before making a statement on the sermon. “I do know we hurt your people,” the text message read. “That was not my intention. We will eventually respond!”

Those protesting Tuesday said they wanted a public apology over the controversial sermon and statements against the tribe’s traditional ways. “We want a public apology from them,” said Northern Arapaho Business Council Chair Keenan Groesbeck. “They still have the same ideology of their forefathers, you know: Kill the Indian, and save the man. We’re not putting up with that anymore. They need to remember they’re visitors on our reservation.”

Lt. Governor of Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes in Oklahoma Hershel Gorham weighed in on the controversy via a social media video. “There are no words other than to say this is despicable,” he said. “This country just celebrated their 250th anniversary, yet our people go back to time immemorial … our Sundance has been with us for a long, long time … to have a person who’s more or less an invited guest … to talk down and belittle our ways like that during the time that the Sundance is actually going on is totally unacceptable.

“All tribes suffered at the hands of the churches, of the federal government,” he continued, referencing the Indian boarding schools. “We know that way, we understand what happened, that’s why there’s graveyards all across this country at those churches, at those boarding schools … If that’s the level of religion that we can expect, no thank you.”

This article has been updated to correct a description of Lynette Grey Bull’s background. —Ed.

Sarah Elmquist Squires is the managing editor of The Ranger, the Lander Journal and the Wind River News.

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  1. I appreciate the response of this reporter in covering what is happening on tribal concerns. Pastor Lucas, i understand your training has misinformed you, that from your own admission.. You just don’t understand what Sundance is. How could you, you have never experienced faith and prayer at this level. This articlee well written has given you a place to start….but do you hold the depth of faith to follow it? I am a Christian. I Am a Sundancer. They are the same thing. But on a different level of prayer. In the name of Jesus, in Pure Love, can you go out in the sun, drink nothing, eat nothing, think nothing but pure prayer in Jesus name for 4 days? Can you Be in his Whole presence, holding nothing back and dance for his Glory for 4 days? Because you can give up it All for Him? If you can Pastor Lucas then you are a true Christian and can finally understand the Sundance. I
    have never been asked or refused to Sundance because I am a Christian. MY faith, and Love of Jesus is always enough. Pastor Lucas, what would Jesus Say?

  2. Privately owned land within the reservation? Problem seems simple enough. The congregation can simply disband. Don’t give the church any more money. The church can sell the land and any buildings to the Tribal Government.

  3. I appreciate this article. It goes to show that the church still and will always consider any other thoughts but theirs unacceptable. I will coment that the writer should have elaborated a bit more about the sacred pipe. I had a visual of a steel piece of pipe. If a sacred smoking pipe is what was intended, that should be stated.

  4. he should explained how the ministers in the 18 century said that they have no souls and it was ok to kill them . We just killed a bunch of young women in Iran . Nothing has really changed the Christian community needs to judge themselves .

  5. God is love ❤️not religion,only through the heart can we have connection with him,our beliefs must include Jesus as our mediator to forgive our sins,our focus should be on letting others know about him

  6. Christianity was invented by narcissistic men to control the masses and make themselves feel forgiven for the atrocities they commit. And we dont have to look very far back to see examples of these horrible events.

  7. I don’t think that anything legally can be done. The best thing would be is to ignore the pastor and congregation. If you see someone that you know goes to that church don’t interact, just walk away. Consider them an outcast. Sometimes shunning works better than the legal process.

  8. I don’t know anything about that church. The fact that it has a female pastor is troubling. I am a devout trad catholic and I love Native Americans. However, Native American religion is shamanism. We whites did a terrible job evangelizing the Indians in the 19th century by the way we treated all of them, and while there are tribes (or a percentage of tribes) who have converted it seems that most of them have dug in with their native religion. And synchritized Christianity is not the answer either. Either you commit your life to Christ or stick with the old way. Btw, for any natives reading this, Christianity is NOT a white mans religion. Most of the first Christian’s were Arabs, Jews (who are Semitic like Jesus was and very dark), Ethiopians, Armenians, East Indians. Yes Greeks and Roman’s also converted. That’s because Christianity is for everyone, not just white people.

    1. It’s like many if not all christian churches- ie., if you’re not a member of my church you’re not going to heaven.

    2. A female pastor is troubling to you? Why does it matter to you?

      This isn’t about a female saying the wrong things. It’s about the arrogance of the religious right who believe only their fairy tales are the correct version.

  9. This smacks of “The White Man’s Burden”. It’s an unfortunate example of the inherent racism that is present in the West with regards to Native people. It’s never OK to advocate cultural genocide!

  10. I personally know Sarah and Jason Lucas. They have been on this land for about 5 years, and still do not understand our Arapaho ways. Saying our pipe is an idol is despicable as our brother from OK stated. We do not pray to the pipe we pray with the pipe. It is The smoke that carries our prayers up to the Creator God. Also as with the Eagle, he carries our prayers upward to our Creator. We do not idolize the eagle. Also with mother earth, we do not idolize the earth we reverence her. She gave birth to us, so if we believers believe the book of Genesis we creator formed man from the dust of the earth so in essence she gave birth to us, if you will. These are the non-believers say we are idolizing.
    Respectfully they do need to leave this reservation. My own opinion.

    1. It just doesn’t seem to matter to so many evangelical “Christians”. There is a similar misunderstanding of Buddhism. As if Buddhists pray to the statue of Buddha or believe Buddha is God. Not so. Too many Christians can’t wrap their head around the cult of Christianity to see anything outside of themselves. It is so sad but true that history is not in the past. I hope you continue to stand strong against the Lucas’.

  11. If there is ever a situation where the first question to ask a tribe, native nation or a native individual it is here and now.
    And that first question is
    “What do YOU want or wish?” Sadly, it is my experience that this question is rarely ever asked. Furthermore when do outsiders have the authority to act without it?
    Respect is founded on seeing and more so understanding the very people one is hell-bent to assist, convert or “improve.”
    Ask the question before the
    effort; it reshapes the conversation and alters the motivation.
    Dignity demands it.

  12. Its common knowledge that native Americans must cope with living in 2 worlds – the white man’s world and their own world. Difficult at best. What Pastor Lucas is saying basically demands that the tribal members should embrace the white man’s world despite centuries of abuse – and do so on their own reservation – a sovereign nation. Pathetic!!!

  13. How dare you try to impose beliefs on we as native people’s across our home lands. You have no right to preach to us. You know nothing about our way of life. Get off our lands and go back home across the seas and stay there. Dont you dare speak of our sacred ceremonies in our time of prayer or way of life.

  14. Foundations For Nations and Pastor Sarah Lucas seem to think they know what is best for the Arapahoe people more than the Arapahoe people do. This is not uncommon. There are many that become so enamored with their beliefs that the fail to recognize the history of all those other evangelizers who came before. In that hubris, they cannot see they are just the same as those who did terrible things to native peoples in the past.
    So kick ’em out, and send a message to all the other would-be evangelizers who come to tear down traditions instead of building people up.

  15. christanity is more of a death cult than any native American spirituality, caucasians created atomic – nuclear weapons & practice greedy killings and child rape SO YOU TELL ME WHO IS GOT IT RIGHT ❗❗❗❗🪓🪓🪓🪓

  16. Lucas’s theology represents what we would call “totalizing theology” in the comparative study of religions because it desires totalitarian violence—the power to eliminate difference. It tells us much more about her than it tells us about the Sundance traditions. Her theology requires of her to have an “Indian” that she can debase. Her theology is consistent with the history in N America of being unable to see the full humanity of others. Her theology requires supremacy over others, compelling her to focus on their inferiority in order for her church to exist at all at the top of a theological dogpile. She needs to describe the world with her as the center of righteousness which means she will always depend upon identifying the others on whose necks she needs to stand in order to stand at all. It’s a terribly weak position to take theologically—being dependent on others in order to affirm your superiority. When others refuse to support her position, she’s left to fall crashing down. That’s why I call it a weak theological position. It’s an ugly focus to bring to the spiritual life of one’s community. She stands naked in the backlash, with the curtain pulled back to reveal good old racism. Yuck. Her theology is consistent with New Apostolic Reform activities which encourage people to become warriors against difference. She’s another victim to the bullying ethos of White Christian Supremacy, the weakest of contemporary theological positions. There are many significant Indigenous thinkers that offer such strong positions to contrast to hers. Vine Deloria, Jr. Tink Tinker. Leanne B Simpson. The backlash could be the most important moment of her life to mature her thinking. Hope she finds herself in the refusal of others to be the thing she loves and needs—Indians who are beneath her boot.

    1. Thank you for the article. I’m a Survivor from an Indian boarding school in Michigan. My siblings and cousins, most every school-aged Native on our small rez was forced to go back in the 60s. Some, like myself got adopted out in the 60s scoop to White families. So everything that meant anything was stolen from me, family, my Indian name, clothing, culture, language, ceremonies, customs, my identity. Separated from my family and tribe, abused physically, sexually, emotionally, psychologically, and spiritually, turned to alcohol and drugs so I wouldn’t have to feel the pain and trauma of my life. To look at me with my dark features one could tell I am Native but I didn’t have a clue what that meant.Being without your mother and father to protect you and love you, kiss you, hold you, make you laugh, to not have that bond leaves you feeling empty, useless and unloveable. Then you become all of those names you were called, dirty, good-for-nothing, heathen savage that would Never amount to anything. I’ve seen in my family the toll it has taken with suicide, addictions, domestic violence, fatalities that could have been avoided, our People dying too young from the hopelessness and despair. It’s called intergenerational trauma, Pastor Sarah, look it up. You may also want to study Native American history, oh wait, our govt has buried it so long people don’t even know it happened. I wish zealots and cults would be more objective and open to learning about differences in world cultures. We don’t call it a religion, it’s our Way of life, our spirituality that managed to survive. Reclaiming my identity and culture has been healing for me, I have much to learn. To hear Pastor Sarah’s comments takes me back to those tortured days, so judgemental, condescending, disrespectful, and self-righteous. I agree and applaud the Tribes response to banish them. Our Tribes here have banned Native as well as Non-Native people for the protection and health of their people. And that is their sovereign right. The treatment of our people by these so-called good Christians have a history of violence, debauchery, thievery, dating back to the Doctrine of Discovery. The theft of Native land was anointed by God in order to Save our Souls. The racist papal bulls have been repudiated by Pope Francis. Pastor Sarah seems to want to bring this superior school of thought back.