Rev. Dan Odell wore his clerical collar to address lawmakers on the Joint Judiciary Committee on Tuesday evening in Casper.
The Methodist pastor wanted the committee to know that if a bill to ban books containing sexually-explicit material from the children’s sections of Wyoming libraries passed as currently written, it could block minors from one book many lawmakers might say is their favorite: the Bible.
To illustrate his point, Odell read aloud some of the religious text’s more graphic passages, like this one from the Book of Ezekiel:
“She lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses,” Odell read.
That passage was one of five containing what Odell called “frank descriptions of sexual acts,” that he read or cited for the committee. The reverend had more examples, he told lawmakers, than his allotted time for public comment on the bill would permit.
A notable swathe of Wyoming legislators have joined a nationwide movement of social conservatives who say sexually explicit content, mostly in books written for young LGBTQ+ readers, is corrupting children. They hope to keep minors from seeking out, or stumbling upon, sexual material in Wyoming libraries. As the packed committee room in Casper suggested, their opposition, largely led by the state’s educators and librarians, is growing larger and more organized.

And as demonstrated by Odell’s testimony, the debate is injecting an unusually carnal note into Wyoming politics.
That includes the language of the bill draft itself, which requires public and school library employees to make sure sexually explicit materials aren’t available to minors, or face severe penalties. Like other conservative social issue measures the Wyoming Legislature has passed recently, the bill would let citizens sue institutions they catch violating the new rules.
The draft contains a six-point definition of sexual acts that cannot be depicted in literature available to a minor. The definitions include graphic descriptions like “ejaculation onto the person of another” or “contact between the mouth and genitalia or mouth and anus,” that are a far cry from the often staid and technical language of statute.
“Sorry if I get flush,” an embarrassed Rep. Jayme Lien said at the committee’s May meeting in Torrington, as the Casper Republican read the bill language, which mirrors statute passed in Iowa, to her colleagues.
Staff attorneys from the Legislative Service Office have suggested that lawmakers could instead rely on a definition of “obscene materials” that already exists in Wyoming statute. That language describes obscene material as something the average person would find prurient or offensive — without getting into the detailed definitions proposed by Lien. But the existing language also notes that, to be considered legally obscene, the material in question, “taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value.”
That definition borrows from a pivotal U.S. Supreme Court decision, Miller v. California. In that decision, the justices found that for material to be considered obscene under the law it had to lack those other societal values. Rep. Anne Lucas, the Cheyenne Republican who has been a vocal proponent of the legislation to ban books, says the Miller test was written for adults, not children.
“The Supreme Court, when they heard that case, it never occurred to them, I suspect, that we would be talking about this in reference to children and obscene materials,” she told lawmakers in Casper on Tuesday, as she argued against using the language suggested by legislative staff. The high court heard Miller v. California in 1973.
The bill’s opponents argue lawmakers are flirting with unconstitutional suppression of free speech in their quest to legislate what books are available where.
Though Odell, the pastor, didn’t name the Miller case, he echoed the justices’ notion that sexual imagery or language can be embedded in texts with deeper meaning.
“I mention these not for the sake of sensationalism,” the clergyman said of the graphic biblical passages he read lawmakers, “but because they’re a part of larger passages that reflect spiritual and moral truths.”
Rep. Marlene Brady, a Green River Republican who’s been outspoken on her belief that sexually explicit content endangers minors, took issue with Odell’s quoting of scripture.
“The Bible is a book of history,” she said, “and some of those passages you’re referring to in my understanding of the Bible is the creator’s message to the beauty of the relationship, of a marriage, between a man and a woman… so to use it as support for what I would consider immoral material, I just take offense to that.”

Lawmakers did not act on the legislation in Casper. After hearing two hours of public testimony, nearly all of which was in opposition to the bill, lawmakers postponed a vote on whether to sponsor it as a committee bill until an October meeting in Cheyenne.
Opponents of the legislation include advocates for LGBTQ+ Wyomingites. They accuse lawmakers of taking aim specifically at books that help gay youth understand their sexuality, in a state that isn’t always welcoming to them. Some of the definitions of sexually explicit material appear to originate from passages of a book called “Gender Queer,” which has generated outrage among conservatives nationwide.
“Wyoming already has obscenity laws that protect us from material with no redeeming value,” Marylee White, a Teton County library board member, told lawmakers. “This proposal goes further, allowing one group’s personal beliefs about morality to dictate what all families can access.”
The meeting drew a packed room of librarians, educators and other opponents who said the measure would stifle free expression and erode the role of the state’s libraries as places Wyomingites, including young people, can go to explore.
“It ruins what the library is,” Lindsey Travis, president of the Wyoming Library Association and head librarian in Sweetwater County, told the committee. Despite the graphic definitions, librarians remain concerned that the general ban on “sexually explicit” materials was so broad that it would be nearly impossible for them to police all the books available to teens and children.
Opponents asked legislators to respect library professionals’ processes for selecting books, and the existing avenues people can take to request a text’s removal. Those structures allowed local communities, not distant politicians, to shape their library collections, Travis said.
But many legislators believe it’s within their purview to regulate library books. Sheridan Republican Rep. Laurie Bratten cited a section of the Wyoming Constitution that deals with protecting Wyomingite’s morality.
“As the health and the morality of the people are essential to their well-being, and to the peace and permanence of the state, it shall be the duty of the legislature to protect and promote these vital interests,” reads the section of constitution Bratten quoted.
Travis offered to pair librarians with lawmakers in a working group to see if the two parties could reach a better compromise than the current legislation, which exposes libraries and schools caught violating the new rules to a $50,000 fine for each offense. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Jared Olsen, R-Cheyenne, told Travis the committee would not pursue the working group, she told WyoFile on Wednesday.
The committee will also not hear further public testimony in Cheyenne, Olsen said at the Casper meeting.
Lawmakers’ email inboxes, however, may not be so spared. Committee members received hundreds of emails asking them to vote down the bill ahead of the Casper meeting, lawmakers said. More than 850 people answered a call from the political organizing group Better Wyoming to write and oppose the legislation, executive director Nate Martin told WyoFile.
“Those aren’t just librarians,” Martin said. “Those are parents, those are people who care about their libraries and those are people who are tired of watching the Freedom Caucus advance their extremist religious agenda.”
A majority in the state House of Representatives aligns with the Wyoming Freedom Caucus, whose members have pushed for regulating library books both at the statehouse and at the local government level. The Freedom Caucus notched up legislative wins last year after taking control of the House, but Martin predicted the group will see increased opposition on this particular issue.
The response to the group’s call to write lawmakers opposing the legislation was “overwhelming and frankly larger than that on most issues we deal with,” said Martin, who also serves on Laramie’s school board.


I’m against the bill as it now stands.
Our librarians and teachers know best what is appropriate for students of all ages. The freedom caucus is out of line on many issues.
It seems the Freedom Caucus (FC) wants librarians to become babysitters. That isn’t their job. It also isn’t a librarian’s job to ban books. The FC can’t see past the end of their upturned noses. As so many comments have pointed out, children are exposed to more explicit sexual content on the internet than they will ever see in a library. I’ve seen the content of one of these picture queer books accompanied by text that I thought was vapid to say the least. Personally, I didn’t see any story in the text that would help a gay youth understand his sexuality, but my opinion doesn’t matter if it did help someone. As Rep Lucas has said, and I’m paraphrasing, “once these images are seen you can’t unsee them,” but that becomes her problem, not others. Maybe she had no idea how queer sex works. Rep Brady wants to hold up a vague paragraph in the WY Constitution about “as the health and morality of the people is essential to their well-being, and to the peace and permanence of the state, it shall be the duty of the legislature to protect and promote these vital interests.” Obviously this has been interpreted over the many decades as to the political climate at the time. Rep Brady should maybe also review Sections 1, 2, 3, and 6 in Article 1. I’m concerned about that the legislative committee won’t be accepting any more public comment when it meets in Cheyenne in October. This is disturbing. And unfair. If the FC thinks they’ve heard enough opposing comments, they haven’t heard nearly enough.
Are we going to pile up all this “sexually explicit” material in front of the library and have a good ole fashioned book burning once this is passed?
Wyoming is full of fake Christians who want to tell other people what to do. I suggest they start following their own religion and leave the rest of us alone.
These people do not need to be worried about local libraries, they need to get their kids’ phones/tablets and see what websites they have visiting. And one more thing, it is not the job of librarians to raise your children.
If you’re so against it then ya better stop reading the Bible because it is full of sexual acts including incest and rape. It’s also very violent the Devine sure knows how to kill his children.
Are they still living in the 1980s? Who is going out to a library to find paper porn when every parent is putting a phone in every child’s pocket, where they can access porn for free?
Hurry up boy’s, grab your pitchforks and lanterns let’s gather them evil witches erm, librarians and erect the stake! Enough with this nonsense. It’s as stupid as banning Jerry Lee and Elvis. Get over it.
these are the people you support
Oh? Do tell..
Do tell indeed
I just signed up to WyoFile today because Wyoming is my 2nd Home Base. We split our time between California and Wyoming.
This Commentor “Gordon Townsend” and a few other female Commentators have convicted President Trump on this Epstein File garbage that has absolutely nothing to do with the Article Topic: Obscene materials in Wyoming Schools, Public Libraries. I hope I am in Wyoming and can see the shame on these so-called hopefuls’ faces when it is proven that Trump did nothing on or with Epstein planes or islands. But hateful people have no shame; they will await the next “kill-shot” at Trump, whatever they can conjure up next. Good job Elon Musk for your revenge trick to bring out MORE Haters than before against Trump just because he stopped your excessive EV Credits. Talk about selfish.
Trump has everything to do with it. Are you unable to connect the dots. 🥴
This is why we don’t want you people here. What are you talking about? Stay on topic please. Let’s all remember: out of staters rarely last long in Wyoming. John Barrasso is from Pennsylvania. Now he lives in D.C., even he couldn’t stand it here lol.
Haha, pot, meet kettle.
“GOD(?)” Forbid! The best work of Fiction ever written, the Holy Bible, be banned from the Pubic Libraries! Blasphemy!!!!!
Ms. Bratten represents our Sheridan district. She is a recent transplant to WY, Colorado maybe her last prior residence, and she’s found her people in a fundamentalist christian church. Like other religious true believers, (think taliban and puritans as examples), she and her people see their role as insisting other people live by their beliefs. Old Wyoming saw this insanity for what it is, closed minded intolerance, racism, and theocratic self-rightousness. New Wyoming in Sheridan welcomes these “wannabe cowboy” transplants because they are white, against women’s free choice, and 2nd amendment fanatics. Headed nowhere good. Young people and free thinkers are headed elsewhere, taking a better future for the state with them.
Lest us Forget! Just two years earlier, 1971, Cohen v. California (SCOTUS) “one man’s profanity is another man’s lyric” ~ Justice John Marshall Harlan II
Writing for the majority, famously stated, “one man’s vulgarity is another man’s lyric”. This quote emphasizes that while some words or phrases may be considered vulgar or offensive by some, they can hold personal or artistic meaning for others. The court recognized that the government cannot censor speech simply because it is deemed offensive, as this could lead to the suppression of unpopular or dissenting viewpoints!!!
How do we get back there???? “GET Back JO JO” ~ Beatles
Obviously the “Freedom” caucus believes it should control what you read, what your kids read, your medical care, whether you should be allowed to vote, local control of local government, and a host of other things. Not much freedom dished out by the “Freedom” caucus. They act more like fascists.
Beware the book banners and morality police. They are commonly the biggest abusers. Look who’s in the white house.
Ironically their signs say it all “Know what your kids see at the library” – exactly, you are the parents – be one! That is your job to decide what your kids read, not the libraries. If you don’t want your kids to read about certain subjects – then be a parent, go with them and know what they are checking out. Pre-screen what they read. But DON’T decide what MY kids read. I guarantee your kids are seeing/reading worse if they have unmonitored access to the internet…which almost every kids does either at home or at friends homes, but this is the easy target to be all righteous the hill they choose the die on. They are all just a bunch of hypocrites!
Our youth can find explicably sexual material not just in the library. What’s going to censored next? Give them an inch…
The attempt by some bozos in the state legislature to usurp the role of how, when, where, and WHAT may be available to read in libraries which are staffed by trained professionals exposes the absurdity of the so-called Freedom Caucus. I love and trust my auto mechanic, but I’ll seek an orthopedist to replace my hip. Legislators should stick to the tasks they’re elected to complete. “Morality Police” is not in their job description, but expanding Medicaid should be. And, it seems already too late to maintain gun-free schools….
I would not like my daughter to see on the news a rich and powerful convicted child sex trafficker/rapist get preferential treatment while the unnamed predators are protected and the victims are ignored, but here we are. I don’t worry about her being harmed by a book from the library. Give me a break! Let the librarians do their jobs.
I can only conclude that those who support the ban have little faith in their children’s ability or desire to listen to and obey their parents’ thoughts on the matter.
Hey there Freedom Caucus
If you’re looking for the EPSTEIN FILES, they’re not in the public library…but I sure wouldn’t mind if you used your righteous morality to find those examples of obscene literature. Just saying…
This conjures up a vision of deprived adults with stacks of books they’ve checked out, dutifully reciting risqué passages and passing around pictures and commenting about what most is most enticing. Then taking a vote on their “favorites” – whoops, I mean the books they tear the pages out of to save for “reference”. Exciting times? The books my book group chooses to read seem rather boring now.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: it is not everyone else’s job to keep stuff you don’t want your kid to see away from them. It is YOUR job as the parent to keep them away from the stuff you don’t want them to see. I sure am getting sick of the party that says no big government feeling the need to govern everything, my body, my bathroom, my reading material, a bunch of stuff I don’t yet know about. Do they know the definition of small?
Seriously? They can see Trump’s Peepee on South Park. These goofballs really have pegged out the goofball meter.
I came for the comments !! I love that there are currently about a dozen comments and I agree with every one of them !! Nice to find some like minded thinkers in this State of close-minded folks ! Let the librarians do their jobs! And if you don’t want your kid reading certain books, listening to certain songs, then don’t let them- but don’t tell ME or my family what we can read and listen to!!!